Hello & Goodbye

[wharria]

Hello & Goodbye for the time being, I return to England for 2-3 months perhaps longer depending on the exchange rates, stock market, property prices etc.
Most forum members know me through the Korat social scene and the fact I don't hide behind a nom de plume!!
My personal opinion is you if can't say it to a persons face " Don't say it" also I was also taught that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.
The saying "sticks and stones can break my bones but words cannot hurt me" is totally untrue with a lot of people, words can hurt and sometimes destroy confidence etc. luckily I am not of that ilk but I know others that are.
Helpful comments, constructive critisism and humour are good, cyber bullying is not.
I will keep in touch whilst in England.

Arthur

[Alfie]

Thanks for the helpful comments Wharria. Good luck back in England.

[PAT]

WHARRIA, WHILST i AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAY I MUST ADMIT IM PUZZLED AS TO WHY YOU SAID IT.
WHAT OR WHO HAS OFFENDED YOU OR INDEED ANYONE







PAT

[FranklyB]

Hi wharria and welcome to the board, and a safe trip back to the UK, hope to hear from you again and you can join the forum on a positive note, bringing something with you we can share and have a laugh and joke and even possibly a debate on what you have mentioned above.

Have a good trip

[PJRay]

Hello & Goodbye for the time being, I return to England for 2-3 months perhaps longer depending on the exchange rates, stock market, property prices etc.
Most forum members know me through the Korat social scene and the fact I don't hide behind a nom de plume!!
My personal opinion is you if can't say it to a persons face " Don't say it" also I was also taught that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.
The saying "sticks and stones can break my bones but words cannot hurt me" is totally untrue with a lot of people, words can hurt and sometimes destroy confidence etc. luckily I am not of that ilk but I know others that are.
Helpful comments, constructive critisism and humour are good, cyber bullying is not.
I will keep in touch whilst in England.

Arthur

While I agree with that, I also look at the flip side. If you're the type of person who always says what's on your mind, regardless of who is present . . . by all means, go for it. It's censorship and political correctness that I have a big problem with, but that's another story . . .

IMO, if someone's psyche is so fragile that a sarcastic comment on an Internet forum can actually destroy their confidence, it's time to seek immediate psychiatric counseling and/or grow a pair of cyber balls.

[armysteve]

Pat & Ray I was introducing myself to this forum and explaining my beliefs, and I am also a member of that certain other website that other forum members have referred to. I have never been offended on any of my posts by the replies but have read some of the other threads where certain forum members have been admonished for bitching, sniping etc. or making sensitive comments about the Thai political situation, If this is another website for taking the p--s out of each other or bitching about each other then maybe it should be renamed appropriately

[armysteve]

Pat & Ray I was introducing myself to this forum and explaining my beliefs, and I am also a member of that certain other website that other forum members have referred to. I have never been offended on any of my posts by the replies but have read some of the other threads where certain forum members have been admonished for bitching, sniping etc. or making sensitive comments about the Thai political situation, If this is another website for taking the p--s out of each other or bitching about each other then maybe it should be renamed appropriately

Just to clear up any confusion regarding the previous post, although it has my name (armysteve) attached I did not write this.

Arthur was in The Ram and used the computer I have on the bar to log on to this site, but as it automatically logs on in my name, my name is on the post instead of his.

Steve.

[saf]

I hope that your trip goes well in England and look forward to your return, Wharria.

Thank you for your thoughts in your OP. I agree with the fundamental argument that one should not write on a forum what one would not say to a person's face. The rules of the forum allow for that by asking that people, including non-members, be treated with respect. Perhaps it's a little more complex than that. There are, of course, things such as private matters that would not be discussed on a public forum. Also, there are things that one might say to a friend or acquaintance that would be misunderstood by other members and guests on a forum.

This forum has been created with the aim that members can communicate reasonably freely with one another, remembering that the whole world can read most of it and also remembering normal good manners. I agree that sarcasm can hit hard and some people are more sensitive to personal remarks than are others. If a small group wants to exchange sarcasm for amusement, perhaps they could be offered a private room away from the public and other members. We should, I think, accept that some people are not as thick skinned as others. Banter between friends is acceptable within reasonable limits provided that, for the benefit of other members and guests, it is made clear that it is exactly that.

Additionally, guests view this forum, deciding whether or not to join. If they see posts giving useful information, discussion and some fun, some may decide that it is for them. At least, I would hope that they find it useful, even as guests. If they see abusive and vitriolic attacks, they will almost certainly be put off. The Administrator is aware that keeping a balance will be a continuing task but he is determined to offer a service that is attractive to anyone connected with Thailand and who wishes to be part of the community, at least in the sense that he or she is happy to be a member of this forum.

If I may modify your OP, I would say that one should not write here what one would not say to another person in front of a large crowd of friends and strangers. That said, if what one writes offends the other party or people in the crowd, the next step is to consider what one has done to cause that reaction and correct it. Each member is a unique individual who, hopefully in all aspects of his or her life, will consider and modify personal behaviour in order to avoid offending others whilst retaining the best of his or her individuality. None of us is perfect but we can do our best.

I hope that 'Goodbye' refer only to your absence from Thailand and I look forward to reading you posts whilst you are away.

Best wishes.

[FranklyB]

Pat & Ray I was introducing myself to this forum and explaining my beliefs, and I am also a member of that certain other website that other forum members have referred to. I have never been offended on any of my posts by the replies but have read some of the other threads where certain forum members have been admonished for bitching, sniping etc. or making sensitive comments about the Thai political situation, If this is another website for taking the p--s out of each other or bitching about each other then maybe it should be renamed appropriately

Just to clear up any confusion regarding the previous post, although it has my name (armysteve) attached I did not write this.

Arthur was in The Ram and used the computer I have on the bar to log on to this site, but as it automatically logs on in my name, my name is on the post instead of his.

Steve.

Steve

You may wish to keep your password away from others. there maybe some who wish to cause a problem, wharria may not of thought about this.

grumpyexpat has got off to a good start, i hope we do not let anyone spoil it, there was the cyper war of 2006, between two popular thai forums, from what i believe there were casaulties at that time, i believe this is what wharria maybe referring to, not a certain other forum.

[PAT]

well said thm and I still cant see any problems to date. Its great to have healthy debate and wind ups if its done the right way. The board, for me, has got of to a nice start with nothing too contencious , I welcome good old fashined banter but Wharria serves as a reminder to keep it that way. wE CERTAINLY dont want a board where people are scared to offer an opinion though and Im pleased therefore that we have a members bar to serve that purpose.





PAT